BAR-baric...
The whole UP Law community was in high spirits after the results of the 2005 Bar Exams came in. Three of the top ten came from UP Law. We got the first, fifth and seventh spots. Congratulations all around, especially to those who topped the bar.
Yey! Who tops the bar? UP TOPS THE BAR! We're the best law school in the Philippines!
Right...sure. Our overall passing rate this year is a measly 78%. Sorry folks, I don't mean to spoil your fun. But them's the hard facts partners. May mga "sumabit," or as some polite people I know put it, "minalas." 22% FAILED THE BAR EXAM.
Oh, by the way, UP Law is a "practice-oriented" law school. At least that's what our professors tell us.
posted by lawintheblandmanner @ 3:29 AM
17 Comments:
Obviously you haven't been through the bar exam experience, which is why it is so easy for you to criticize and dismiss those who failed to make it.
It's ok to be critical, but I hope you are sensitive to the feelings of those who didn't make it.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the college ever claimed that it is the best law school only by virtue of the fact that one of its students placed first in the bar. It's the media and public in general who make such a big deal about it. UP Law is considered to be a great law school not JUST because of that.
HI.CAN I JUST ASK HOW MUCH TUITION SA UP LAW AND YOUR IN WHAT YEAR NA?GOOD LUCK SA BAR
To anonymous: It's YOU'RE, not YOUR. No, I'm not taking the bar. I'm an incoming freshman :P
6K per semester tuition. But the greatness of a college is never measured by the cost of tuition fees.
To melvel: Read carefully. I did not dismiss or criticize those who were unfortunate enough to fail the bar. Also, I suggest you get a dictionary and look up the word "SARCASM."
Note: I love the UP College of Law. What I don't like are some things that happen within the college.
bland guy: I know perfectly well what sarcasm means, thank you very much. And in this case, your sarcasm "leaves a bad taste in the mouth" (to borrow your tagline).
I used to think the same way about passing percentages, before I took the exams myself. I always considered it a disappointment to see how UP's passing percentage went down gradually in the four years I spent in law school. But after actually taking the exams, most of us didn't care about passing percentages anymore. When some of my blockmates and law school batchmates failed to pass the bar exam, I didn't think along the lines of "Damn, that's another blow to UP's passing rate".
I hope you eventually finish law school and take the bar with your friends so you can understand why your post irked me a bit.
oo nga, tama si melvel, medyo insensitive nga yung post.
Please God don't let a professor read that post. Dude, you'll seriously regret any steps faculty'll take if they take criticism like that seriously. Think revenge of the nerds.
You know why some law schools are incredibly successful in the bar? Coz they only graduate people who they know will pass it based on their performance in school. It's the oldest trick in the book... remember when the Philippines got disqualified after winning the little league world series at louisville? Ofcourse we beat the other teams, we cut the 'weaker' players of a legit team and replaced them with the stars of the other teams. and how did the cut players feel when they weren't allowed to play? they went to every single practice, their parents went to every game, they sprained wrists, PAID for their gear... Same goes for law school. You want faculty to do something about the passing average? Easy...fail the bottom 40 of every batch. That should do wonders to our passing rate.
It's EASY to look good when you only put ur best foot forward. But in law school, looking good isn't really the point is it? This isn't a competition! It's about making lawyers, giving back to the country and well, giving us jobs eventually.
Let's not look at our performance in the Bar as our main source of pride! Otherwise our beloved college will become just another law school with a stick up its ass.
The fact that our college has the smartest students in the country should be a source of pride in itself ;)
no new posts?
jill, no new posts, i've no idea of what's happening in malcolm these days. bakasyon mode. pero ikaw, kung may alam post mo lang ng comment...di naman lalabas yan kaagad sa blog, i-momoderate ko pa.
This post is not merely insensitive but, pun intended, BARBARIC.
Its comes from an ill-mannered person who obviously has taken so in much of the so-called rarefied air in malcolm hall in his/her/its head to push forth such fantastic claims allegedly made by the college.
Yes, 22% failed or "minalas" but let us straighten out the facts, as statistics don't lie its just twisted to suit some personal needs.
In case you have forgottten the national passing average of the 2005 Bar exams was around 27%, looking at that data, 78% is not at all bad especially when you look at the performance of all law schools.
Yes, compared to the other law schools who had around 80% and above passing rate, it does seem bad. But note the base or the number of law students in those law schools who took the bar exams, I can assure you its much less than number of bar takers from UP. [And yet, despite the "screening process" of these law schools, meron pa ring "minalas".]
Given that scenario and the laws of probability, it becomes quite clear that a greater number of takers correlated to a very law national passing average which most likely include a lot of "minalas".
Of course, there is a lot of blame to pass around for this so-called "debacle". But what is more important are the lessons learned for the bar takers, the next bar takers (which I guess will include you)and the UP College of Law.
As a parting shot, I am giving you unsolicited advice: if you don't know what you are talking about just simply shut up.
Sarcasm has no place or time when it hurts the feelings of the innocent and the defenseless; It is the weapon of choice of unthinking and unfeeling people who are unable to defend an indefensible proposition.
Very nice comment. Very...passionate. It seems my post has touched a raw nerve. Interesting...
Just a clarification:
I DON'T HAVE A PROPOSITION TO DEFEND!
Learn to comprehend what you're reading.
Btw, I like your post. I hope that in real life you actually go around telling people to shut up when they don't know what they're talking about. Shows ou got guts. If you read my post on preliminaries, I don't have guts and I don't know what I'm talking about :D
for some reason, i am not offended by this post because your sarcasm is typical of many law students.you'll love the college in time, you'll see.unless you're the kid of UP law alumni who was merely forced to study law. if you are, i see...
and oh, this blog will be hunted down and i'll bet my 3rd best soccer jersey that you'll a) delete this when word gets around b) change the url so only 2 people can read it.don't let me down.
ang dami pang "scandals" sa up law.i look forward to more entries from you.
Hi. I'm also part of the batch who just passed the bar exams this year, and I would just like to echo the sentiments voiced out by those people who commented on your post that you were being unduly harsh on those who didn't make it. Like melvel, after the bar results came out, I didn't care so much anymore about U.P.'s passing rate. I think most of my batchmates became more concerned about the people who didn't make it -- how they were coping, etc. It personally came as a shock to me when I learned who didn't make the bar. A lot of those who didn't were (a) goods students while in law school; (b) people I knew with good study habits; and (c) people who worked hard and really studied for the bar during the review period. Studying and going through the bar exams is one of the most stressful things a person can go through in life. In fact, someone told me that the Philippine bar exam is the most difficult bar exam in the world. I don't know anybody who would want to purposely fail it or to take the exams unprepared. There are simply a lot of factors that can come into play and that can affect a person during the 4 Sundays that they're taking the bar. In addition, there were more than 5,000 examinees who took the bar, and I think that it's really possible for human error to come into play when the exams are being corrected. And yes, that's why I think, there are some people na "minalas," and that's why, like some of the people who posted comments, I thought you were being unduly harsh on those who didn't make it and also on the school, when you described our bar performance as BAR-baric. I understand your disappointment, but please know that in spite of all the hoopla surrounding the bar exams, bar performance isn't the only thing that makes a law school great.
Also, I think over-all, you're being quite pessimistic about being in Malcolm. I've been working for almost 6 months now, and I've come to realize that Malcolm doesn't completely prepare you for the real world, especially when you work in a law firm, and that we actually had it easy when we were in law school. Of course, you're only in first year and you'll be experiencing more things in Malcolm. Hopefully, you'll learn to appreciate what you have in the college and the opportunities that it has to offer and that you'll learn to be proud of U.P. like I am.
lawintheblandmanner,
isa ako sa mga hindi nakapasa sa 2005 Bar Exams, at tama ka, nakakahiya nga naman para sa isang paaralang nagtuturo ng batas "in a Grand Manner" na may bumabagsak pa rin... suddenly it's not as grand as one would, or should, expect it to be
oo, napahiya ang school sa mga tulad ko, thus your criticism... the truth hurts, and for those similarly situated, para mong binuhusan ng acid ang mga sugat namin
sa kagaya kong bumagsak na nakabasa ng blog mo, wala akong choice but to accept what you wrote at piliting kalimutan na nabasa ko ang blog mo para makapag-aral na lang muna, even though sa isip ko lang you could have used the dictionary to scan and use words with the proper tone to convey your point and/or sentiment without sounding too harsh
kung galit ka sa false notion ng mga tao of UP being the best law school amidst the failures, sa newspaper ka dapat magsulat ng criticism to change such notion, kasi taumbayan ang naglagay ng markang iyon through the years, hindi kami... by this time, alam mo na dapat how powerful the media is, and how easy it is for the media to make pronouncements that "turns molehills into mountains"
natural lang that we take pride with our topnotchers, kasi wala nang school na nakaka-100%, at tendency na ng tao na tanungin kung sino at saan galing ang topnotchers
at kahit kami ng mga ka-batch ko, we are humble enough to admit na marami pang mas magaling sa ibang paaralan... we did our best, although in my case perhaps kulang pa nga, pero walang sino man ang gugustuhing bumagsak ang sino man sa amin
sa mga gaya mo na papasok pa lang ng UP, mag-aral kang mabuti and do your share to turn the "bland" into the "grand" that you would like UP to be... do your best and pray that you pass the bar in a time of plenty para hindi ka magaya sa akin na naparesign mula sa trabaho (sa panahong kailangan namin ng perang pambili ng gamot for an ailing family member, among other concerns...) dahil bumagsak ako sa Bar
tama ka, "Some things about the UP College of Law just leave a bad taste in your mouth", but then, saan ba wala? where is the perfect law school?
Sa nag comment above...
Honestly, your comment puts me to shame. Kebz ko ba sa mga nag-comment na pumasa ng bar. But I cannot help but feel guilty after what you said. Yes, I could have, and maybe I should have, used a more appropriate approach to my post. However, the whole point was to use shock value to make people think about the meaning of bar passing percentages, to realize that the bar exam results are about people, not numbers. I'm sorry for the way I wrote this post, but it's already there and I will not change it.
I'm proud of how you've come to terms with what happened. The bar exams, or so I hear, are not just about preparation and skill, sometimes the element of luck is involved.
I'm sure this year you, and the others who succumbed to bad luck last year, will pass the bar. The attitude you present makes me prouder of you than I am of those who passed the bar.
I thank you for your advice, and I wish your ailing family well. God works in mysterious ways and He will provide for you, just keep your faith and all will be well.
God bless and good luck.
totoo naman talaga sinabi ni lawintheblandmanner.bumababa na ang kalidad ng pagturo sa UP LAW. Ikaw ba naman teacher mo mga tulad ni harry roque na nilalampaso lang ng parrot na congressman na si monico fuentebella.
tanggapin na natin na sa UP Law, prestige na lang. Ikaw ba kahit sa tingin mo makakapasa lahat kung may mga professor sa UP Law na may lapses of ideas, at nilalampaso ng isang parot na congressman na wala talagang katuturan ang argumento, yan ay si ROQUE. Sinabihan ay mga ay hwag na dapat maging abogado on national TV. At nakangit lang.
Aminin na natin, prestige na lang ang UP LAW. Ano ang problema nyo kung ang passing rate ng UP ay mababa. Looking at its history, umalis ang magagaling na prof, kung hindi man umalis, patay na. Di ba dati dahil sa sigalot dyan sa deanship dyan dati?
Ang problema di natin matanggap ang realidad. Lalo pag taga UP tayo. Dapat magaling tayo lagi eh hindi nman pwede yun.
lawintheblandmanner, nilampaso ka yata ni mr. parting shot. you made it worse with that lame and pathetic response. what the..? i had to cringe. sabay tayo. hahahaha.
you're obviously very young.
i have to commend you though for this blogsite. it's still a good idea.
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